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Things on my Mind: First Edition, Quotes create Controversy, Unforgivable Booking, whither the Lightweight Rankings, More!!!

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Welcome to a column that will become a semiregular feature here where I just talk about some of the things on my mind regardless if they're connected or not. My mind isn't cluttered often, usually it is empty, so I can't say how often you'll see these but I hope you enjoy them.

I'm not saying you need to agree or disagree with these thoughts, I'm just giving you a peak in to my thought processes. Yeah, its dangerous but what would life be like with out a little danger?

  1. Just how thin is the ECW roster?
    Someone and I'm sorry I don't remember who otherwise I'd drop their name did a quick assessment today of the ECW roster. Factoring out injured/suspended wrestlers, women, and announcers there are exactly 12 performers on the roster. If TNA has too many people for a one hour show, ECW has too few.

  2. If I'm a fan in Memphis, I'm pissed and not because I'm in Memphis.
    So you spend your money for a ticket to Unforgiven and while you don't know the main event when you purchase the ticket you get excited when you find out it is John Cena Vs. Randy Orton for the WWE Championship. Then you go to the show, you get a 5 minute match and then a disqualification ending. Then you see Jonathan Coachman book a Last Man Standing match for the next PPV. Talk about not getting what you paid for, perhaps WWE was mad at Memphis for hosting that Hulk Hogan Vs. Big Show match?

  3. Why longer doesn't mean better.
    The talk has been that when TNA is moved to 2 hours on Spike that we will see an increase of in-ring time. I believe that this will actually be the case but I also believe it won't do any good. The storylines are bad, and the way TNA matches go, instead of getting interference now at the 4 minute mark you'll get it at the 6 minute mark.

  4. The real gimmick match in TNA is...
    On a PPV that will feature: A Women's Gauntlet, a Reverse Battle Royal, A Tables Match, an Ultimate X Match, a Must be a winner match, a Monster's Ball match and that's only what we know so far, the real gimmick match is a singles match with no stipulations. Remember when TNA booked its first ever cage match and then waited another year before having another? Now we get a stip every week and sometimes multiple stips layered on top of one another. Eventually every match will have a gimmick and the real gimmick matches will be singles matches with no stips.


  5. Triple H, defending the world against tag teams 2 teams at a time.
    I don't know what the reasoning is behind Triple H beating the tag team champions clean on Raw, then laying out the #1 challengers to those belts. Sad thing is that because of how much cash the WWE has they don't have to know the reasoning either.
    If you're Cade/Murdoch and London/Kendrick maybe you breathe a sigh of relief knowing that less people saw you get slaughtered then might otherwise have.

  6. I miss the Midnight Express.
    I miss them and the Fantastics and the Rock N' Roll Express, but we can't go back to those days because anyone with the power to try has no desire to do so.

  7. The champ is...deserving.
    I'm just going to say it. If there is one guy on the WWE roster who deserves the distinction of being WWE champion for more than a year besides John Cena, I don't know who it is.
    Cena is a hard worker, he has a unique connection with the crowd, he loves the wrestling business and he does everything the company has asked him to do. If giving him a year rain was their way of rewarding him for hard work and loyalty then I'm glad they decided to award someone for those things. I'm not Cena's biggest fan but in terms of his title reign, I've got no issue with it. In fact, in the age of title changes not meaning anything, Cena keeping the belt an entire year is kind of cool.

  8. The Ultimate Fighter Season 6: Episode 1.
    Roman's freakout in the Doctor's office will remain funny as long as I'm able to imitate his accent. They didn't bury the guy which makes me suspect that he'll be back.
    I don't like the new rule but I'm willing to give it a chance. I don't like that the result of the fight doesn't determine who picks the next fight. I'd love to see Matt Hughes push Matt Serra's buttons in the way Jens Pulver did to BJ Penn last season. Maybe the show will prove me wrong, so I'll wait and see.
    Matt Serra is the real prick. I'm sorry but maybe Matt Hughes is cocky and arrogant. If that's really the case, maybe it is because he's Matt Hughes!! Serra's the one that does all the talking and name calling and he's the one we're supposed to be sympathetic for? Also, I love Hughes mastery of Serra's paranoya with Joe in the first episode. Matt had no intention of picking Joe at all but forced Serra to pick him first in order to make sure Hughes couldn't, and it is clear to me that Joe wasn't #1 pick material.

  9. Where's the top 5 of the top 5 Lightweight Rankings?
    It is tough for me to do those rankings right now. The fact is the division is in a bit of a mess. If we set the limit at 155 LBs what does that mean for Takanori Gomi and Joachim Hansen and guys like that who fought above that in Pride? Add to that the uncertainty around the UFC Lightweight championship and in many ways the class is just too messy to sort out. I may put those on hold for now, see if things straighten out in the next little while before revisiting them. I intend to update my rankings after UFC 77 next month.

  10. Quotes create controversy, but was it right?

    “I’d like to make out with Gina, but I am here to knock her out. Either way she wants it, though, is fine. with me.”


    This one quote at the press conference uttered by Tonya Evinger set off an entire sequence of events for this past weekend's EXC 'Uprising' show which perplexes me.

    The quote was brought up during the fight and prompted an exchange between Bill Goldberg and Mauro Ranallo which sparked a lot of debate on internet message boards. Goldberg said:
    I'm not going to touch that one with a 25 Foot pole.
    Ranallo responded with:
    I'd like to touch it with a 25 Centimeter one.

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    I called Ranallo's remark a Jerry Lawler comment since that's the kind of thing you'd hear on Raw. But, when I started to see search after search for Mauro Ranallo 25 CM or Gina Carano 25 CM, I knew people were going to be talking.
    Look, people are mad because they think that Ranallo degraded Women's MMA with his comment. There was even speculation that this might cost him his EXC gig which is what would be an outrage to me. First, it isn't as though Showtime is the family friendliest network on the air. Second, the guy made a joke. There seems to be a double standard imposed on men and women. Nobody would think much of it if a room full of women had made sexual remarks relating to the guys involved in any of the other 4 bouts on the card. I know women who watch MMA for the bodies and not the sport, isn't that degrading the athletic accomplishments of the men? If that kind of thing isn't actively discouraged then why is it not ok for the reverse? I should note that I don't even think that Ranallo's comment degraded women's MMA at all but if you did I'd like to hear whether or not you think it would be ok for women to do the same during a men's bout.


    However, there was a quote that I thought could have done serious harm to Women's MMA and the sport in general. Gina Carano said after submitting Evinger that:
    I put her in the choke and I wanted to squeeze her until she couldn't breathe. Why won't you diiiiiiieeeeeee~!!!!

    Lets just say scanning referral logs brought up no hits related to that comment yet that was arguably worse than anything uttered by Ranallo or anyone else. Sure, I know that Carano wasn't speaking litterally and trying to join the chris Benoit society for pro athletes and I know she said it in the heat of victory. However, to me neither of those things is a good excuse. Just imagine one of the 6,000,000 talk shows that exist today getting ahold of that clip and leading off an MMA story with it and not providing any context? Comments like that don't do the sport any favors whatsoever and anyone that wants to see the sport thrive should've been complaining about that comment more than anything else.

  11. If Gina Carano is the face of Women's MMA, the mask better come off.
    Hey, I have nothing against Gina Carano at all. I know she's popular, checking my referral logs is always a good reminder of that fact. I'm not even saying that Carano shouldn't be the face of Women's MMA.
    I think that if EXC is trying to protect Carano by feeding her opponents they believe she can beat, eventually the bloom will come off the rose and it might not even be Gina's fault. Women's MMA is a relatively new sport and compared to the men there's just not as much top-flight competition. This makes it harder to hide or protect someone because there's fewer trees in that particular forrest.
    The Amanda Buckner's, Tara LaRosa's and Shayna Baszler's of the world need to be factored strongly in to Gina Carano's future if EXC wants people to take their women's division seriously.


Well, that's what's on my mind right now. I've hope you've enjoyed this piece. A lot of this was discussed by Art Shimko and myself on the lost podcast so it is good to get this stuff out.

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EliteXC 'Uprising' Live Round-by-Round Coverage

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Welcome to the combat-hooligans.com live coverage of Showtime and EliteXC's 'Uprising'.

As a refresher you can see our predictions here Everyone but Danger, Euan myself and Our Greatness are pussies.

ProElite.com will stream bouts once the Showtime portion is over, and someone else somewhere can cover those because not only am I tired and hungry but ProElite rarely works for me.

We've got 5 bouts scheduled, and you can get round-by-round updates and scoring by refreshing this page in your browser.

We'll be getting started shortly. It appears I am an audience of 1 tonight, and combine that with tiredness and hunger, if these fights are boring I will get pissed quickly.

Hosts: Mauro Ranallo, Steven Quadros and Bill Goldberg.

EXC showcased the title fight, plus Shields, Carano, Diaz and Villasenor in their opening hype video. If Shields, Carano, Diaz and Villasenor all lost I'd find that funny.

The Samoa Joe dancers are here, or not.

The talking heads run down the card while the drums beat in the background. I'm more listening to the drumming to be honest.

Each fighter gets a video introduction proceeding their entrence.


  1. Renato Verissimo Vs. Jake Shields - (175) 3X5 Minutes
    Referee: Mario Yamasaki
    Yamasaki goes from England to Hawaii in a week, sucks to have his schedule.

    R1: Standing exchange doesn't last long before VErissimo gets a takedown. Shields just stands right back up though. Shields scores his own takedown and Verissimo goes to closed guard. Shields nails some body shots on the ground. Verissimo working from his guard but is eating Shields elbows like some people eat chips. Shields moves to side control and then to the full mount. Verissimo gives up his back and eating some ground and pound. Shields just unloads with strikes until Yamasaki stops the fight.

    Winner: Jake Shields - R1 4:00 via Ground and Pound

    Shields was dominant and finished like I predicted he would.

    Goldberg interviews Shields. If he says anything of note, it is that Verissimo is one of his favorite fighters. Yeah, I like guys who it is proven I can beat their ass.

    J.D. Penn sounds a lot like his brother. He made some sort of presentation to Shields. Shields' next EXC fight could be for a welterweight crown.

  2. Riki Fukuda Vs. Joe Villasenor - (185) 3X5 Minutes
    Referee: Steve Mazagatti

    R1: Fukuda and I'd better not commit any typos on that name, takes Villasenor to the mat almost immediately. He goes in to side mount and looks for a triangle choke. Villasenor escapes out and it pops the crowd. Back to the feet and they're trading shots with Fukuda getting the better of it. Big kick to the body by Fukuda and then hits a liver-kick. Fukuda hits a bodyshot and takes Joe down into the fense. Less than 2:00 left and Fukuda is pretty much in control. Fukuda is rocked with a left and then rocks Joe with a left. They're slinging fists and then Villasenor hits a nice headkick. Villasenor hits another headkick and has come on strong to end the round.

    Scoring: Fukuda's round 10-9 but Villasenor made it interesting.

    R2: They clinch but Joe elbows out and then hits another headkick. Joe Villasenor is trying to land a job as an NFL placekicker at the expense of Fukuda's head but Fukuda isn't going anywhere. Fukuda lands a strike and hooks a body lock attempting a takedown. Fukuda does more attacking to the body.

    Villasenor appears tired, his mouth is open and hands are dropping. Joe connects with a right gets a bodylock but lets it go. Mazagatti calls for action and then repositions them. Villasenor nails a nice punch/kick combination. Another flury at 5 seconds left in the round and we're getting another round!

    Scoring: Villasenor 10-9 but another close one. 19-19 thus far.

    R3: They end up in the clinch right away and it is pretty much a draw. They're standing and trading some shots again after Fukuda landed a nice left hook. Fukuda hits a bodykick and these guys have really been laying into one another. Joe hits an uppercut and I'm all of a sudden not tired. Fukuda finally shoots for a takedown and gets it.
    Fukuda gets full mount and just as quickly as he does, Villasenor reverses out of it. Have I mentioned loving this fight yet? Mauro says: "After last week in England, I think anyone would be happy to not be an MMA judge." I wonder what he's talking about? Did something happen in England?
    Mazagatti calls for some action as it slows down. We're down to the final minute. Fukuda rocks Villasenor with a couple of punches but Villasenor shakes them off. We go to the judges...

    Scoring: 10-9 for Joe Villasenor but this was also close. 29-28 Joe Villasenor.

    Winner: Smokin' Joe Villasenor (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)

    This was a close fight and nobody got Hamilled. Villasenor gives a lot of credit to Fukuda in the post-fight and he deserves it. Joe's presentation is a lot more quiet until Goldberg starts yelling for people to cheer.

    Oh, and that's 0-4 for me in picking the correct outcome of Joe Villasenor fights.

  3. Tonya Evinger Vs. Gina Carano - (140) 3X3 Minutes
    Referee: Mario Yamasaki

    R1: Evinger scores with a right and takes Gina down, that was quick. Mauro Ranallo just morfed in to Jerry Lawler for a second talking about a 25 CM poll.
    Evinger goes for a choke but Carano defends. Carano goes for a sweep and lands elbows against the fense. Carano goes for a rear naked choke (emphasis on naked) as she took Evinger's back.
    Gina Carano just submitted Tonya Evinger.

    somefaggot said Evinger would win.

    Winner: Gina Carano - 2:53 R1 Submission

    I'm not going to say anything more other than LaRosa, Buckner or Baszler.
    Gina Benoit: "I just wanted to choke her until she didn't breath anymore. Why won't you die?" Goldberg then panders by saying: "Lets hear it for the face of Women's MMA!!" I used to like Bill as a commentator, not on this night.

    Ric's reaching for the jar of hot and spicy honey mustard as his boy Nick Diaz-Orton is up next.

    Aina's 5 losses have been by decision, never KO'd or submitted.

    Diaz has 1 no contest on his record, wonder how that happened?

  4. Nick Diaz Vs. Mike Aina - (160) 3X5 minutes
    Referee: Steve Mazagatti

    R1: Fight is on the feet as expected, ref stops the fight for a "wardrobe malfunction" and we're back at it. They do some more trading of shots. Aina is really trying and landing shots but Diaz is withstanding all the shots. Announcers tease a rematch between Diaz and Gomi in EXC. Don't count your mustard jars before they're emptied.
    Aina standing with Diaz and trading shots but Diaz just takes them in stride.

    Scoring: Aina's round 10-9 but I feel like Diaz is ok with that.

    R2: Diaz hits a nice body kick from Diaz to start the round. Aina just rocks Nick Diaz who ends up on the ground, Diaz probably isn't down with that. 2 of 3 judges gave Aina round 1 like I did. Diaz eats another shot covered in mustard but no Ketchup yet.
    Diaz wants to take the fight to the mat because getting owned in the standup isn't cool. Diaz starts picking Aina apart with the Nick Diaz strikes that Euan knows and hates but what work for Diaz clearly. Diaz looking for a takedown and he finally secures it with 30 seconds left. He's got the mount and Aina is lucky the round is so close to ending. Aina holds on.

    Scoring: The way the round ended, it goes to Diaz even with the knockdown. 10-9 Diaz, 19-19 overall.

    R3: They clinch early. Diaz starts peppering Aina with the jabs again and then nails a nice elbow, uppercut and then a knee. Now the slugfest has started and they trade strikes and shots as the crowd pops. Diaz looks for a takedown but Aina's sprawl is nice. Diaz takes Aina down with a minute and 40 seconds to go, much more time than he had in round 2. 30 seconds left and Aina is still in a spot that you'd call not good, but Diaz looks for an armbar but the round ends.

    Scoring: I'm giving the third to Diaz 10-9 and 29-28 fight but an Aina victory will not surprise me.

    Winner: Nick Diaz via split decision (30-27, 28-29, 29-28)

    Once again, this isn't a Hamill situation. I scored for Diaz because he was closer to finish. I'm not sure I give it to Diaz 30-27.

    There's a bunch of boxing stuff coming up on Showtime. ShowXC returns on 10/26 and the next EXC show is 11/10. You can see the full schedule of stuff at Sho.com

    Talk of whether Ninja's striking is on par with Lawler's. I don't think it is but I think the striking battle is closer than the ground battle.

  5. Middleweight Championship: Robbie Lawler Vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua - (185) 5X5 Minutes.
    Referee: Mario Yamasaki

    R1: Takedown by Lawler to start the round but Ninja gets back up. Ninja nails a good hook and is taking it to Lawler standing. Lawler blocks Rua's high-kcik but not Rua's low-kick. Lawler is hitting more combo punches while Ninja is going for more single strikes. Quadros calls for Ninja to go for a low-kick which is what he does. Rua nails some more nice low-kicks. Lawler nails a high-kick of his own to end the round.

    Scoring: Lawler got the takedown, but didn't do much. Ninja got to the feet and did more with the strikes, 10-9 for Ninja. You go the other way? Fine!

    R2: Lawler starts out by taking the agressive approach on the feet. Rua tries a takedown but Lawler successfully defends and starts pressing Rua toward the fense. Ninja appears to be tiring. Rua tries takedowns, and Lawler avoids them. Rua hits a body-kick but it doesn't real do any serious damage. Round ends.

    Scoring: Round 1 was a lot closer. Round 2 was all Lawler's. 10-9, 19-19.

    R3: Lawler hits a nice kick-punch combo to open the round and nails another big punch. Now the low-kicks of Ninja aren't really being as effective. Lawler hits a head-kick and then jacks his jaw with a straight right. A combination on Rua knocks him down, some G&P later and a new champion is crowned. Hey, I got the round right, I just got the method of stoppage and the winner wrong. You know what they say, 1/3 isn't good.

    Winner: Robbie Lawler - R3 TKO


Lawler sounds like he's 6, only kidding.

A pretty damn good night of fighting all thing's considered. Close decisions, hard to argue, unlike last week.

Call me an EXC mark if you will but I love this promotion.

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Odds for tonight's EXC 'Uprising' main bouts

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  1. Robbie Lawler (-200) vs. Murilo Rua (+160)
  2. Nick Diaz (-850) vs. Mike Aina (+550)
  3. Riki Fukuda (-150) vs. Joe Villasenor (+120)
  4. Jake Shields (-600) vs. Renato Verissimo (+400)
  5. Gina Carano (-600) vs. Tonya Evinger (+400)


Interesting that Lawler is the favorite but in the informal media poll I took part in, Rua won 7-4.

The only person on this whole list I'd bet on at those odds is Evinger and I'd probably bet a lot.


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Gina Carano's opponent for September 15

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According to the fight network it will be Tonya Evinger who sports a 4-2-0 record and last fought on July 14 at Fatal Femmes Fighting 2 losing by Armbar submission in 2:14 of Round 1 to Vanessa Porto.

The lineup as it stands...

  1. Middleweight Title: Robbie Lawler Vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua
  2. Welterweight Bout: Jake Shields Vs. Renato Verissimo
  3. Nick Diaz Vs. Mike Aina
  4. Middleweight Bout: Niko Vitale Vs. Riki Fukuda
  5. Women's Bout: Gina Carano Vs. Tonya Evinger
  6. Mike Pyle Vs. TBA
  7. Kala Kolohe Hose Vs. TBA


The rest of the card will be announced on 08/16 at a press conference.

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